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Why elves can't be psions?

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 02:26
by ilmarinen

Re: Why elves can be psions?

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 02:47
by gaius
Likely because when they initially went in ages ago, it was difficult to get anything added in at all - let alone any new classes.

Arbitrary restrictions to placate certain individuals to get things added was the name of the game.

As such, it's an archaic holdback that can easily be changed, and opened up to a plethora of races.

Re: Why elves can't be psions?

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 07:28
by ilmarinen
Although it started silly it kind of provides some thematic restrictions... So mewbe we should keep these restrictions... Dunno...

Re: Why elves can't be psions?

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 14:19
by kismet
I -think- there was an IC explanation that said "you do not learn to be a psion, you are born a psion" and that elves simply aren't disposed to being born with such latent psionic powers. Kind of like a mutant human gene that elves simply do not have.

That said, the class has been in for 50-60 IC years, so certain ambitious elven families may have cracked the code.

Re: Why elves can't be psions?

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 14:51
by gaius
So, I actually recall why they weren't allowed from the onset (and why lore had to be retrofitted).

At the time they went in, multiclassing was still based loosely off of second edition standards (ie: f/m/t, f/c, etc). Because of that, the mud was comprised of something like 90% elves or halfelves (maybe an exaggeration, but not by much).

Anyhow, to help promote more gameplay from other races (and yes, human was pretty rare), psions had the race restrictions put in place.

Re: Why elves can't be psions?

Posted: 08 Feb 2020, 06:00
by nienne
Actually the base reason wasn't code difficulties, it was lore related, per Kismet - seen this discussion a few times over the years. Elves (and drow) are so steeped in millennia of arcane arts that arcana is quite literally in their blood (disease & scar resist, etc), that the psionic arts are at odds with their nature & they "aren't born with it" so to speak. Thus why neither race has the class available. Most psionics in D&D lore arises from specific lineage or environmental circumstances (eg/ underdark radiation, planar exposure or interbreeding, blah blah).

Some later D&D lore did add in a drow house that managed to find a way around this (using all sorts of nasty illithid research etc), but other than that I don't think it arose elsewhere lore-wise.

So many other classes still have these lore-based limitations, so depends if you want to hold to those still or not. Personally I like the flavour, but later D&D editions were less strict on this kind of thing so if yer headed this way it may be a reasonable reaction :)

Re: Why elves can't be psions?

Posted: 17 Feb 2020, 11:21
by ilmarinen
Ty, that answers it... Perhaps one day it will be in the lore...